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McEnroe vs Federer: A battle of Mindset

Updated: Feb 24, 2023

This week, our blog is written by one of our inspirations for doing what what we do, James Anderson.

James is an Australian educator and now public speaker who works with teachers globally, to spread the message about Carol Dweck's work on Growth Mindset.

Usually, at this time of year, we would be seeing the start of Wimbledon, but unfortunately the brakes have been applied to this strawberries and cream event due to COVID-19. But it got us thinking here at Grow Your Mindset about tennis and the link with mindset and we immediately thought about James, who often tells a tale of John McEnroe and Roger Federer. Two highly successful tennis players and admired by millions, but both with completely different mindsets. So can you be successful with a fixed mindset? Let's find out James' view on this.

"In her book, Mindsets: The New Psychology of Success, Professor Carol Dweck uses John McEnroe as an example of a person with a Fixed Mindset. I think he’s a great example for many reasons.

You can’t argue with the fact McEnroe was an extraordinary tennis player. He is ranked 6th in the list of most career match wins on the ATP World Tour – that’s more than Andre Agassi, Novak Djokovic and Andy Murray. He is often considered among the greatest players in the history of tennis.

Can you be successful with a Fixed Mindset?

In short, yes. Dweck’s use of McEnroe as an example of someone with a Fixed Mindset dispels the idea that only people with a Growth Mindset can grow. You don’t need a Growth Mindset to grow – it just helps.

The Growth Mindset is the understanding that growth is possible. To achieve that growth, you need to develop mature Habits of Mind and apply them through the process of Virtuous Practice – something I describe in The Agile Learner. McEnroe didn’t have a Growth Mindset, but he did develop many Habits of Mind and engage in virtuous practice, which lead him to become one of the world’s most successful tennis players.

Why should I have a Growth Mindset then?

The benefit of a Growth Mindset is it invites you to take these actions and guides your responses as you engage in the process.  Think about what happened when McEnroe made a mistake – the tantrums and the dummy spits. Of course, it’s natural to feel disappointed when we make mistakes, particularly when they happen in high-stakes situations. But in McEnroe’s case, his frustration was directed outwards – at the umpire, the ball boy, the crowd – rather than inwards towards learning and improvement.

What does Fixed Mindset look like?

McEnroe’s focus was always on protecting his appearance of being a great tennis player. If he wasn’t having a great day, if he was losing a match, rather than accept responsibility, and be accountable for his performance and what he needed to do to improve,  he would blame someone else.

McEnroe also didn’t like to practise. He saw practise as a sign of weakness, that there might be something wrong with his game – something he couldn’t admit. He was all about being better than other people.

What does Growth Mindset look like?

Compare McEnroe to Roger Federer, who, in my opinion, is the quintessential Growth Mindset tennis player. Federer makes a point of practising harder than almost anyone else in the game – and he says so. For him, practise isn’t a sign of weakness, it’s a sign of commitment to his growth and becoming a better player. He has great Motivation Calibration, in that he understands Virtuous Practice is the price he must pay to improve.

Federer understands psychologist Anders Ericsson when he says, “What motivates the very best to practise so hard? They understand that such practise is essential to improving performance. That’s it. Not because they love to practise. Because they love to improve.”

Federer is all about improvement. For him, mistakes aren’t a sign of weakness. In many ways, they are a blessing because they help him hone in on what he needs to work on to improve. He’s not out to be the best in the world – he’s out to be his best.

In some ways, I feel Federer doesn’t compete against the other players so much as he uses them to improve his own game. When he does lose or make a mistake, he doesn’t assign blame or make excuses. Rather, he praises his opponent for the way they played (noting there’s something he can learn from them) and points to shortcomings he needs to work on.

I think Federer sums up his Growth Mindset attitude in this quote:

I love the way he finishes that quote: “That’s what makes me a better player.” He’s not particularly interested in being world number one. He wants to be the best player he can be. Even when he is world number one, he looks for ways to improve and push himself.  When you focus on being better than yourself, your world ranking looks after itself.

Moreover, Federer’s Growth Mindset is what makes him such a gracious player. Unlike McEnroe, Federer knows the game isn’t about proving he’s the best. It’s not a measure of who he is. Rather, it’s a recognition of the work he’s done, a measure of where he is at, and a way to continue to better himself.

A Growth Mindset is not a promise of growth, it is an invitation to grow. It gives you the understanding you are capable of growth. It allows you to more deeply and effectively engage in the behaviours and processes required to achieve that growth. It’s not essential to growth, but it helps – a lot!


What impact does mindset have on education and business?

James really proves the point that success can come with hard work, which both tennis players did and this theory can be applied to education and business. However, when you reflect upon these two people it does make you wonder, "Who do I want to be? McEnroe or Federer?" and "Who would I like to work for?"

In education and business, the impact is incredible. A McEnroe approach creates competitiveness, mistrust, humiliation, anger, fear and stress. Whereas the Federer approach creates trust, compassion, empathy, collaboration, calm and dedication.

To us the choice is obvious, getting there is harder, but we do have a choice, a choice to change and a choice to stay as we are. Even if growth is challenging, we can still have great fun do something that is a challenge.

Our advice? Be less McEnroe and be more Federer.

Much Love

Gemma and Liz x

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